Foiled again.

The Doser was reading in The Oregonian about some folks going to a camp in Eastern Oregon in order to watch the stars. (Better viewing, there, out of the city lights and smogs.) For an instant The Doser almost had a grip on the clincher that would awaken anti-evolutionists from their medieval doze. The point was to call attention to how long, at the speed of light, it took the shine from really distant stars to reach earth. It could be, for some, a longer time than the Bishop Usher 6000 years plus 2009 years for the event of creation. But, then, The Doser's hopes were dashed! They can't be convinced that stars are that far away from us....... Something to do with those stars actually being little holes poked in the firmament.